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posted by MoChassid @ 10:47 AM  

36 Comments:

  • At 11:57 AM, Blogger orieyenta said…

    I made a donation and hope it gets to you...the place to put your name was not on the page where I made the donation!

     

  • At 12:07 PM, Blogger PsycleSteve said…

    MoC
    I see that you're joining us for the last two days on the challenge ride (actually the 2nd to last day - the last day everyone has the same route). Maybe you are not so "at peace with your masculinity" as you claim to be. Can I tempt you will a little "har tavor" also on day 3(you seemed to kvell about "metzukai dragot")?

     

  • At 6:54 PM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    I've already done Har Tavor. I would love to do it again but I just know that I won't have the time in September and October to keep my edge. And metzukai dragot does rock.

    L'maisa, I think the climb to Nes Harim on the last day may be the hardest of all. (I haven't really checked the difficulty of the Carmel climb).

     

  • At 6:55 PM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    Orieyenta

    Thanks so much. I will check into it.

     

  • At 8:26 PM, Blogger PsycleSteve said…

    When did you do har tavor? On your own?
    I've been told that day one from t'varia into tzefat is a brutal relentless climb culminating with a series of 12% switchbacks.
    Did we do nes harim on the last day 2 years ago?

     

  • At 10:00 AM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    Steve

    We did not do nes harim two years ago, we did Ramat Raziel, a climb that was, in some respects, even harder (although it did have some breaks in the middle of its 7K length; the climb to nes harim is 5.5K without any flattening out).

    Didn't we do Tavor two years ago?

     

  • At 11:22 AM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    Orieyenta

    The place to put rider's names is on the first page, where it says additional information.

     

  • At 3:59 PM, Blogger orieyenta said…

    Oh good. I put your name on that first page so hopefully it gets to you. Not loads of $$ but I hope every bit counts!

     

  • At 10:50 PM, Blogger PsycleSteve said…

    Ramat Raziel had 2 sections of >10% grade which nearly wiped me out (after 4 days of Chermon, Kochav Hayarden and Gilboa). Hopefully the pitch of Nes Harim is somewhat more moderate.

    No we didn't do Har Tavor. We did the Gilboa (site of Shaul and Yonatan's death at the hand of the plishtim). From the top of that climb if you looked directly north across the valley, Har Tavor sits alone towering over the valleys of the lower Galil. Site of many t'nach battles - most famous being the Devorah,Barak, Yael, Sisera escapade.

    Both routes go right by it - the challenge route stops to ascend it. If your legs feel strong try to fenagle a way to join us. I've always thought that Har Tavor was the most beautiful of the Galil mountains so I'm really looking forward to it (although during the ascent I probably won't be so thrilled...).

     

  • At 5:58 AM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    I think the gradients of nes harim are worse in some sections. and there is literally no flat section at all.

     

  • At 4:06 PM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    orieyenta

    It looks like they got it and I got credit. tizki limitzvos.

     

  • At 7:11 PM, Blogger Jacob Da Jew said…

    MoC, I sent you an email a few days ago-did you receive it?

     

  • At 6:59 AM, Blogger my chariot wheels said…

    I did Nes Harim about a Month and Half ago, after riding from Rosh Haayin (about 45 km's). It really is a killer. I found it Much Harder than going up the Hermon. After I got to the top I kept on going To Alon Shvut where I met Ezer kenegdi and had lots of Pasta at the yekev restaurant.
    Nes Harim at the end of day 5 wont be easy.
    How do we do it?

     

  • At 9:16 AM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    jacob

    yes sorry for not responding. I will send you a copy as soon as I have it and apprciate your help.

    MCW

    I have done nes harim at least ten times. I think a very high percentage of riders will be walking parts of it. Not only does it come at the end of five days of climbing but the morning ride from T.A. to Nes Harim is deceptively difficult. It is a gradual but constant climb which is very often into a stiff headwind.

    Besides its steepness, the problem with Nes Harim is that unlike most other nasty climbs, there is literally no let up for 3.5 miles. It never flattens out. And remember, after Nes harim, we decend and then have to climb back up to Ein Karem. The climbt o Ein Karem is no picnic if you look at the charts.

     

  • At 11:04 AM, Blogger PsycleSteve said…

    Anybody have the average and maximum gradients for that 3.5 mile climb? I suffer better when I know what to expect.

     

  • At 3:29 AM, Blogger my chariot wheels said…

    OK here's the whole link to the Israeli list:

    http://www.tan.co.il/alia.asp

    Know what to expect.

     

  • At 9:17 PM, Blogger PsycleSteve said…

    Thanks MCW for the link. Looks like maale akravim from last year is the most difficult climb in the country (there are a couple a bit steeper but much shorter). Har Tavor looks almost as bad. Nes Harim looks manageable but after four days of climbing any hiccup in the road will feel like Everest. I don't recognize a lot of the places - do any of them represent the Carmel climb?

     

  • At 1:55 AM, Blogger my chariot wheels said…

    steve from what I can discern- the carmel is the Beit Oren climb.
    Tavor is definitley the biggest challenge
    Now should I go one day and practice it?
    Its about 1.5 hours away from. Seems like a waste of time
    I think I will train locally I dont know if I should do back to back metric centuries a couple of weeks before the ride or a double in one day. The double seems easier, less time (days) off to do it.

     

  • At 9:41 AM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    MCW

    IMHO, I think you would be better off going up and down nes harim twice rather than go to Har Tavor. Much less time. and, in terms of long rides, while it is important to get time on the seat, I think it's more important to get time on the hills. (If you can do both at the same time, better still).

     

  • At 2:00 PM, Blogger PsycleSteve said…

    MCW

    Don't waste valuable riding time travelling.

    My formula
    1) 1 long ride (metric century or longer)/week for basic aerobic endurance
    2) Find a long steady moderate climb that takes ~30 minutes to complete. Do 2-4 repeats once a week for climbing muscular endurance.
    3) Get to to steepest section around you and find a segment that takes ~5-10 minutes to climb. Do 2-6 repeats once every 2 weeks for improving brute force generation. Try to keep the cadence >55. Stop if you can't maintain at least 45 rpm or you are asking for knee problems.

    This should get you through the ride. If tou want to do it FAST, that a whole new set of training...

     

  • At 2:35 PM, Blogger MoChassid said…

    totally agree with steve if you've got the time. That's basically what I simulate on my spin bike because I don't live anywhere near hills.

     

  • At 5:38 PM, Blogger my chariot wheels said…

    I have hills here all over.
    On my (usually) weekly ride of 90 km's I have about 1500 m vertical some portions over 30 mins. So I combine the endurance and the climbing
    Its not as steep as the Jerusalem hills, but its close to home
    I think I will do repeats of some neighborhood steep hills once a week or everyother
    And I am not planning on coming in 1 st place , just to finish should enough of a challenge.

     

  • At 11:11 AM, Blogger my chariot wheels said…

    Actually its only 1200 - 1300 meter culmulative climbs.

     

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    Vicious!

     

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